Philip Dietz is the crew chief of the Jason Johnson Racing 41 for David Gravel. He had success with JJ behind the wheel, including winning the Knoxville Nationals, and this year he has Gravel in the thick of the title fight. Hear from this week on Open Red, the official podcast of the World of Outlaws.

Open Red is the Official Podcast of the World of Outlaws. Each week, we’ll bring you entertaining discussions, unfounded insight, non-expert analysis, and some great guests from the Greatest Show on Dirt!